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1. few questions about her kit
   1. is skills super break also triggered on exo toughness
   2. do you build her with err or be
   3. how fast does she ult and how much speed does she needs ( my relic rolls are horrible )

   should I try and get her? consider these
   1. i am f2p and will not pull lc
   2. i use [ ff, rm, lingsha, fugue ] [ cas, evernight, cyrene, luocha ] [ phai, Sunday, dhpt, x ] where x is either rm, rmc, cyrene or bronya based on availability
   3. i like her design but am willing to compromise
   4. i am looking forward to the 4.x char especially sp sparkle and yae sakura
   5. I don’t have regular sparkle
   6. currently at 30 pity with guarantee with around 50 pull right now

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   • 1. No, since exo toughness only happens after the enemy is initially broken
     2. Very likely BE since she scales off of it, ult debuff duration is LONG, and her damage will probably be more from her talent. I’d just hold onto both until she’s finalized.
     3. Really depends on math/simulations, and subject to change, but her talent hits only once per turn (like hunt March 7th), so normally I’d say at least in the ballpark of her carry, but her carry is Firefly, the speed queen. At base 96 speed, it’s hard to say where that speed breakpoint will end up.

     >Should I try and get her?
     First off, obviously wait until we get more info on 4.0, we have almost nothing concrete besides elation being a path (whatever that means mechanically), and Sparkle SP + Yao Guang for 4.0.
     Secondly, based on the obvious baked in buffs for Firefly, Constance is obviously a buff for firefly to make her relevant again, like Hysilens for Kafka. There’s no guarantee that 4.X will cater to break at all so treat the situation based on how you feel about pulling Fugue currently. That being said, you will have the GOAT team for Firefly if you do pull (and that’s incredibly unlikely to change anytime soon).

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     • Superbreak does happen during or on the exo break. Always has, but now it will happen even on the first break too. (Doing both super break damage and break damage in the same damage instance.) That’s why the exo break always did a boat load more damage than the initial break. Due to the initial break not applying the superbreak damage. But now it will happen on both break instances increasing damage further and actually making RM a bad match up for the Dalia and Fugue combo since she keeps enemies broken for much longer thus delaying any other breaks from happening.

       The thing about The Dalia, she does not only increase Firefly’s damage by a solid 3x+ more than RM does. But she also fix’s not one, not two but THREE main issues that the SB team has. The first is well, no damage until the enemy is broken. The second is Firefly’s downtime, before you never wanted to leave ult as you always needed 2 skills to get back into it and thus you lost a LOT of damage. Now however you’ll ult again after the first skill allowing you to get off another enhanced skill right away doing another load of damage before the cycle is over. The last thing she fix’s is the weakness implant issue. Depending on Firefly to do it alone especially when she can only do it to one enemy at a time was always a major headache especially when Firefly would kill the boss p1 only for the 2nd part to come up and get rid of said weakness implant and then you had to wait for the next Firefly turn to implant again wasting lots of your allies turns doing 0 damage and 0 weakness break damage. That’s why the teams fallen off the way it has. Even if all she did is fix the weakness without increasing damage per hit she would already be a great character.

       Imo if you’ve already invested heavily into the premium Firefly team, going for a simple E0/S0 here to revive that team is a very worthwhile pull. Why say no to 1 cost to revive a team that cost 4+. Imo it’s a bigger waste to let the team rot and let the old investment die out.

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       • I wasn’t saying that superbreak doesn’t happen during exo toughness, I was saying her SKILL doesn’t work – remember, her skill doesn’t give superbreak, it just allows it on enemies that aren’t broken.

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2. the way mihoyo buff break dps
   *kil/ a genius society member for daughter of relic set✓
   *dahlia kit are 100%about make firefly simp happy, but is that worth it? after firefly recieve jingyuan slander/harrasment for a whole 10patch?
   *Break meta=firefly? is that how mihoyo see break meta? while other is npc?
   *Break meta will surely be ded , if they made half of dahlia kit still racist toward break dps other than FIREFLY.

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   • RM and Fugu don’t really play together that well because delaying enemy action means you delay the refresh of 2 break bars, so making a RM replacement benefits that playstyle.
     RM works better with HMC who is fully focused on superbreak buff, so delaying enemy action means more opportunities to push in superbreak. In essence, getting Dhalia lets you run FF team on one side, and RM, HMC as a second team core for Boothil/Rappa, which is totally a “buff” for players going all in on Break. RM and HMC are also welfare units.
     It’s a character for a game in which the entire endgame requires more than one team built. She makes a lot of sense there.

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     • it’s actually very simple. Dahlia is Firefly dedicated support, meanwhile Fugue is Rappa/Boothill support. Ruan Mei is the only break general support that can fit both teams.

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