 | 名词 | 黄泉 |
| 阵营 | 巡海游侠 | |
| 稀有度 |  | |
| 命途 |  虚无 | |
| 战斗属性 |  雷 | |
| 汉语 | 菊花花 | |
| 英语 | Allegra Clark | |
| 韩语 | 박지윤 | |
| 日语 | 沢城みゆき | |
| n/a |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| 行迹材料 | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| 剧情 | 自称「巡海游侠」的旅人，本名不详。 身佩一柄长刀，独行银河。 |
| 目录 |
| 属性 |
| 战技 |
| 行迹 |
| 星魂 |
| 光锥 |
| 背包 |
| Gallery |
| 语音 |
| 剧情 |
属性
| 等级 | 攻击力 | 防御力 | 生命值 | 速度 | 暴击率 | 暴击伤害 | 嘲讽 | 能量 | n/a |
| 1 | 95.04 | 59.4 | 153 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 20 | 185.33 | 115.83 | 299 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 223.34 | 139.59 | 360 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 30 | 270.86 | 169.29 | 436 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 308.88 | 193.05 | 498 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 40 | 356.4 | 222.75 | 574 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 394.42 | 246.51 | 635 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 50 | 441.94 | 276.21 | 712 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 479.95 | 299.97 | 773 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 60 | 527.47 | 329.67 | 850 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 565.49 | 353.43 | 911 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 70 | 613.01 | 383.13 | 988 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 651.02 | 406.89 | 1049 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
| 80 | 698.54 | 436.59 | 1125 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 |
战技
 | 三途枯榷 - 普攻 | 单攻 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 30 | |
| 对指定敌方单体造成等同于黄泉 对敌方单体造成少量雷属性伤害。 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 八雷飞渡 - 战技 | 扩散 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 60 / 扩散 : 30 | |
| 获得 获得 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 残梦尽染，一刀缭断 - 终结技 | 群攻 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 弱点击破 : 0 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 依次发动3次【啼泽雨斩】和1次【黄泉返渡】，对指定敌方单体最多造成等同于黄泉 【啼泽雨斩】：对指定敌方单体造成等同于黄泉攻击力 【黄泉返渡】：对敌方全体造成等同于黄泉 终结技期间无法为敌方附上【集真赤】。 对敌方单体造成3段少量雷属性伤害，若消去目标【集真赤】则对敌方全体造成少量雷属性伤害。最后对敌方全体造成1段雷属性伤害并移除所有【集真赤】。 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | 红叶时雨，万倾一空 - 天赋 | 强化 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 0 | |
| 【残梦】达到 任意单位施放技能期间使敌方目标陷入负面效果，黄泉获得1点【残梦】并为目标附上1层【集真赤】，若使多个目标陷入负面效果，则为其中【集真赤】最多的敌方目标附上1层【集真赤】。该效果每次施放技能最多触发1次。 黄泉在场时，敌方目标离场或被任意单位消灭后，其持有的【集真赤】会转移至全场【集真赤】最多的敌方目标。 【残梦】达到上限时可激活终结技。终结技期间可无视弱点属性削减敌方韧性，并使敌方全体全属性抗性降低。 任意单位施放技能期间使敌方目标陷入负面效果，黄泉获得【残梦】并为敌方目标附上【集真赤】。 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 攻击 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 30 | |
| 攻击敌人，进入战斗后削弱敌方目标对应属性韧性。 | |
 | 四相断我 - 秘技 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 60 | |
| 立即攻击敌人，每个波次开始时获得【四相断我】，对敌方全体造成等同于黄泉 【四相断我】：施放终结技后黄泉获得 若攻击普通敌人则立即将其消灭，不会进入战斗。未击中敌人时不消耗秘技点。 攻击敌人，每个波次开始时获得【四相断我】，对敌方全体造成雷属性伤害，并无视弱点属性削减韧性。 若攻击普通敌人则立即将其消灭，不会进入战斗。未击中敌人时不消耗秘技点。 | |
 | 啼泽雨斩 - 终结技 | 群攻 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 15 / 群攻 : 15 | |
| n/a 对敌方单体造成少量雷属性伤害，并消去目标最多3层【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】时，对敌方全体造成1次少量雷属性伤害，每消去1层【集真赤】本次伤害倍率提高。 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 啼泽雨斩 - 终结技 | 群攻 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 15 / 群攻 : 15 | |
| n/a 对敌方单体造成少量雷属性伤害，并消去目标最多3层【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】时，对敌方全体造成1次少量雷属性伤害，每消去1层【集真赤】本次伤害倍率提高。 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 啼泽雨斩 - 终结技 | 群攻 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 15 / 群攻 : 15 | |
| n/a 对敌方单体造成少量雷属性伤害，并消去目标最多3层【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】时，对敌方全体造成1次少量雷属性伤害，每消去1层【集真赤】本次伤害倍率提高。 | |
| 等级 | |
 | 黄泉返渡 - 终结技 | 群攻 |
| 能量恢复 : 0 | |
| 弱点击破 : 群攻 : 15 | |
| n/a 对敌方全体造成雷属性伤害并移除所有【集真赤】。 | |
| 等级 | |
行迹
 | 赤鬼 |
| 需要角色晋阶 2 | |
| 战斗开始时，立即获得 | 500031 |
 | 暴击伤害强化 (暴击伤害) |
| 需要角色晋阶 2 | |
| 暴击伤害提高 | 500036 |
 | 攻击强化 (攻击力) |
| 需要角色晋阶 3 | |
| 攻击力提高 | 1000033 |
 | 伤害强化•雷 (雷属性伤害提高) |
| 需要角色晋阶 3 | |
| 雷属性伤害提高 | 1000033 |
 | 奈落 |
| 需要角色晋阶 4 | |
| 我方队伍中存在1名/2名除黄泉之外的「虚无」命途角色时，使黄泉普攻、战技、终结技造成的伤害为原伤害的 | 20000511 |
 | 攻击强化 (攻击力) |
| 需要角色晋阶 4 | |
| 攻击力提高 | 2000054 |
 | 暴击伤害强化 (暴击伤害) |
| 需要角色晋阶 5 | |
| 暴击伤害提高 | 4500033 |
 | 攻击强化 (攻击力) |
| 需要角色晋阶 5 | |
| 攻击力提高 | 4500033 |
 | 雷心 |
| 需要角色晋阶 6 | |
| 终结技的【啼泽雨斩】击中持有【集真赤】的敌方目标时，使黄泉造成的伤害提高 | 160K811 |
 | 伤害强化•雷 (雷属性伤害提高) |
| 需要角色晋阶 6 | |
| 雷属性伤害提高 | 160K88 |
 | 暴击伤害强化 (暴击伤害) |
| 需要角色等级 75 | |
| 暴击伤害提高 | 160K88 |
 | 攻击强化 (攻击力) |
| 攻击力提高 | 25002 |
 | 攻击强化 (攻击力) |
| 需要角色等级 80 | |
| 攻击力提高 | 160K88 |
星魂
 | 高天寥落真言始 |  |
| 对处于负面效果的敌方目标造成伤害时暴击率提高 |
 | 霆鼓俱寂，瑟风亦止 |  |
| 行迹【奈落】最高数值所需求「虚无」命途角色的数量减少1名，自身回合开始时获得1点【残梦】，同时为【集真赤】最多的敌方附上1层【集真赤】。 |
 | 寒肃惊永蛰 |  |
| 终结技等级+2，最多不超过 |
 | 亘焰燎照镜中人 |  |
| 在敌方目标进入战斗时，使其陷入终结技伤害易伤状态，受到的终结技伤害提高 |
 | 崇岩支离，千身飘零 |  |
| 战技等级+2，最多不超过 |
 | 灾咎解桎梏 |  |
| 黄泉造成的终结技伤害全属性抗性穿透提高 |
光锥
| 名词 | 稀有度 | 命途 | 攻击力 | 防御力 | 生命值 | 战技 | n/a | |
 | 幽邃 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 战斗开始时，使装备者的效果命中提高 |   |
 | 渊环 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 使装备者对减速状态下的敌方目标造成的伤害提高 | |
 | 匿影 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 施放战技后，使装备者的下一次普攻对敌方目标造成等同于自身 |  |
 | 晚安与睡颜 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 敌方目标每承受1个负面效果，装备者对其造成的伤害提高 |  |
 | 猎物的视线 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使装备者的效果命中提高 | |
 | 决心如汗珠般闪耀 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 当装备者击中敌方目标时，如果该目标不处于【攻陷】状态，则有 | |
 | 延长记号 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使装备者的击破特攻提高 | |
 | 后会有期 | 4 | nihility-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | 装备者施放普攻或战技后，对随机1个受到攻击的敌方目标造成等同于自身 | |
 | 新手任务开始前 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使装备者的效果命中提高 |  |
 | 以世界之名 | 5 | nihility-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | 使装备者对陷入负面效果的敌方目标造成的伤害提高 | |
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| 名词 | 稀有度 | 类型 | 配方 | |
| 信用点 | 3 | 角色晋阶材料, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 蓄梦元件 | 2 | 光锥强化, 角色晋阶材料, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 流梦阀门 | 3 | 光锥强化, 角色晋阶材料, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 炼形者雷枝 | 4 | 角色晋阶材料 | |
| 造梦马达 | 4 | 光锥强化, 角色晋阶材料, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 炽情之灵 | 2 | 光锥强化, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 星火之精 | 3 | 光锥强化, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 焚天之魔 | 4 | 光锥强化, 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 蛀星孕灾的旧恶 | 4 | 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 | |
| 命运的足迹 | 5 | 战技 养成材料, 行迹升级材料 |
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语言
| Title | loc_sound |
| 初次见面 | |
| 问候 | |
| 道别 | |
| 关于自己•行动 | |
| 关于自己•习惯 | |
| 关于自己•身份 | * 完成开拓任务「行过死荫之地」后解锁 |
| 闲谈•雨 | |
| 闲谈•刀 | |
| 爱好•桃 | |
| 烦恼 | |
| 烦恼 | |
| 分享·武器 | |
| 见闻·黑洞 | |
| 见闻·命途 | |
| 见闻·命途 | |
| 关于开拓者 | |
| 关于流萤 | |
| 关于黑天鹅 | |
| 关于砂金 | |
| 关于瓦尔特 | |
| 关于萨姆 | |
| 星魂激活 | |
| 角色晋阶 | |
| 角色满级 | |
| 行迹激活 | |
| 队伍编成•开拓者 | |
| 队伍编成•黑天鹅 | |
| 队伍编成•砂金 | |
| 队伍编成•瓦尔特 | |
| 战斗开始•弱点击破 | |
| 战斗开始•危险预警 | |
| 回合开始•一 | |
| 回合开始•二 | |
| 回合待机 | |
| 普攻 | |
| 战技•一 | |
| 战技•二 | |
| 轻受击 | |
| 重受击 | |
| 终结技•激活 | |
| 终结技•施放 | |
| 无法战斗 | |
| 重回战斗 | |
| 回复生命 | |
| 秘技 | |
| 战斗胜利 | |
| 开启战利品•一 | |
| 开启战利品•二 | |
| 开启贵重战利品 | |
| 解谜成功•一 | |
| 解谜成功•二 | |
| 发现敌方目标 | |
| 返回城镇 |
剧情
| Title | 文本语言 |
| 角色详情 | 自称「巡海游侠」的旅人，本名不详。身佩一柄长刀，独行银河。 淡漠寡言，剑出如紫电般迅猛，却从来只以刀鞘战斗，收而不发。 |
| 角色故事·一 | 「…并非人选择刀，而是刀选中了人。▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇…那一日，看着『刀』经由我手锻成，再被交予少女手中，我意识到，在对抗▇▇▇▇的道路上，她选择了——或是被选中——踏上那条▇▇迈向明日的道路。▇▇▇▇▇这是一个美好的时代，即便出云国依旧面临威胁，人们也依旧怀抱希望，相信▇▇会被尽数斩落，天下将重获自由…▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇……」 * 角色等级 |
| 角色故事·二 | 「…从锻刀者留下的残卷可知，出云曾一度来到破灭边缘。为求存续，他们以▇▇▇▇锻刀，持刀者被奉为救国的英雄。 遗憾的是，这个世界已经从星图上消失了，历史的真相无处可寻，『记忆』也不复存在。武装考古学派抵达时，星系中只流淌着「神秘」的歌谣：无边的雨自▇▇中如泪涌出，微茫的雨幕下，出云国的孑遗背对被▇▇▇▇▇▇抹去的故乡……」 * 角色等级 |
| 角色故事·三 | 「我用了『醒觉 那雨仿佛永远不会停下，在高涨的潮水中，人们在溺亡中微笑。而在沉沦的黑夜，我总能听见遥远的雷声在迫近，直到某一刻，雷光乍现，将黑夜撕裂。在破碎的天空下，我又看见了她——在褪色成无的世界里，她轻轻挥出一刀，将整片梦境带走。 我必须承认，在这条路上她走得远比我们更深。那无可捉摸的████引领她走向██，她却在无形中将其执握于手。也许在旅途之初，她就已准备好面对真正的敌人……」 * 角色等级 |
| 角色故事·四 | 「我把这封信留在这里。如果我没能回来，就由它来讲述她的故事，一位我在████邂逅的同伴。迈向彼岸的路艰难无比，幸亏有她同行，我才能一路平安无事…… …在我们相遇前，她已去过许多世界，各种生活技能都十分熟练。我和她一起在野外烹饪和搭帐篷，那些没有星星的夜晚，她会听我讲故事，和我讨论明天要做什么。更多时候，我们只是在默默行路。这里的雪是紫红色的，尝起来有树莓的酸甜。她████会赞赏我做的████雪团子…… …在认识她以前，我曾长年在██河流中跋涉。她向我伸出了手，我们便一起在这条河流中同行。如今，分别的时候到了，我还没走到岸边，也不知道即将面对的是什么…但我没有理由停下脚步。生命无非是一条终有尽头的道路，在此之前，我会用自己的双脚走到终点。我相信她也一样。」 * 角色等级 |
| 角色故事·一 | 「…并非人选择刀，而是刀选中了人。正如人无法选择命运，而是命运选择人…那一日，看着『刀』经由我手锻成，再被交予少女手中，我意识到，在对抗『八百万神』的道路上，她选择了——或是被选中——踏上那条看似迈向明日的道路。我多么希望这是一个美好的时代，即便出云国依旧面临威胁，人们也依旧怀抱希望，相信恶神会被尽数斩落，天下将重获自由…可直到刀光消陨，我才明白，这是一条没有终点的死路，而踏上它的人们，再无回头的可能……」 |
| 角色故事·二 | 「…从锻刀者留下的残卷可知，出云曾一度来到破灭边缘。为求存续，他们以『神骸』锻刀，持刀者被奉为救国的英雄。学会对其中的『八百万神』很感兴趣，目前尚不清楚它们与哪条命途有关，而在日后的记述中，出云人对那些刀主的称呼也渐渐从『人』变成了『鬼』。 遗憾的是，这个世界已经从星图上消失了，历史的真相无处可寻，『记忆』也不复存在。武装考古学派抵达时，星系中只流淌着「神秘」的歌谣：无边的雨自黑日中如泪涌出，微茫的雨幕下，出云国的孑遗背对被她拯救又亲手抹去的故乡…她的前方，只有目不可视的阴影。」 |
| 角色故事·三 | 「我用了『醒觉 那雨仿佛永远不会停下，在高涨的潮水中，人们在溺亡中微笑。而在沉沦的黑夜，我总能听见遥远的雷声在迫近，直到某一刻，雷光乍现，将黑夜撕裂。在破碎的天空下，我又看见了她——在褪色成无的世界里，她轻轻挥出一刀，将整片梦境带走。 我必须承认，在这条路上她走得远比我们更深。那无可捉摸的『虚无』引领她走向自灭，她却在无形中将其执握于手。也许在旅途之初，她就已准备好面对真正的敌人…我曾向她提问，这一切有何意义？但她并未作答。是她不知晓如何回应，还是她心中早已有了答案？」 |
| 角色故事·四 | 「我把这封信留在这里。如果我没能回来，就由它来讲述她的故事，一位我在俄尔刻龙邂逅的同伴。迈向彼岸的路艰难无比，幸亏有她同行，我才能一路平安无事。初见面时，我总觉得她似乎背负着某种使命，是「复仇」吗？恐怕不是。一个心怀仇恨的人总会在某些时刻将其展露，但她永远那么平静，除了偶尔流露出的一丝悲伤…… …在我们相遇前，她已去过许多世界，各种生活技能都十分熟练。我和她一起在野外烹饪和搭帐篷，那些没有星星的夜晚，她会听我讲故事，和我讨论明天要做什么。更多时候，我们只是在默默行路。这里的雪是紫红色的，尝起来有树莓的酸甜。她已尝不出多少味道，但依然会赞赏我做的俄尔刻龙雪团子…… …在认识她以前，我曾长年在『虚无』的河流中跋涉。她向我伸出了手，我们便一起在这条河流中同行。如今，分别的时候到了，我还没走到岸边，也不知道即将面对的是什么…但我没有理由停下脚步。生命无非是一条终有尽头的道路，在此之前，我会用自己的双脚走到终点。我相信她也一样。」 |
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1,358 responses to “黄泉”
Crazy how the there are still doompost here 😮
It’s okay, no one will judge you here. You can be critical of your bewedded maiden, she’ll still love you I promise. (she loves me more)
Weren’t you hating on her before? 💀
just in shambles
Yeah. All the simps calling her “bRoKeN” ore release are in shambles. She performs alright compared to a JY, jingliu, or dhik. Who would dare criticize their queen to which they fantasize day to day.
this is the same issue with youtubeurs, calling everyone broken at release. No critical thinking, just being sheep’s and parroting one another, and the people in here regurgitating what X YouTube said. It’s pathetic.
that’s the thing, she is broken and is competitive for number one (and most deffo better than JY).
whatever helps you cope lmao
Wdym alright lol she ways above JY in her performance and is the best DPS in the game by far
Finally someone gets it
She’s a good unit, but the way everyone is ridding her crimson knot is disgusting. The push for Acheron like she breaks the charts is ridiculous. No you shouldn’t pull for her any more than any DPS unit, and I just wish there was more opposition, more voices telling players to maybe think twice.
The anecdotes are especially killing me. The I did 500k so she can’t be bad… like all her damage isn’t funneled into her ult, or that she doesn’t overkill enemies to inflate her perceived numbers. Most DPS units have their damage spread out, Jingliu doing 200k per skill and 250 per ult is in no way inferior for example…
Not to mention Jingliu is sooooooooo easy to build. Girl got free 50% crit rate, 30% crit damage, and 9 speed build in her. You don’t need really her LC too, just get the Herta’s LC and you’ll be fine.
My biggest issue with Acheron is her strict requirements to get anywhere near her full potential
Yes full potential Acheron is absolutely insane… but…
Her best 4* LC is barely 80% of her sig, her best F2P isn’t even 70%
Then she slows down if you don’t have Resolution Shines on Pela and her ST dmg isn’t particularly stunning without SW
I think Acheron is great but the amount of hoops new players need to go through to use a fraction of her potential is insane
Compare that to Dan Heng and Jingliu who both have a free LC that’s over 90% of their sig, easy Relic sets and the ability to use VERY easily obtainable supports
For newer players Acheron is not the way unless you’re willing to dedicate everything to her
For more experienced players do what you want
Fair take, I have similar opinions too, altho she’s still good for new players with her technical skill, but personally I think it is also a bad aspect as that take away the fun when you first starting out
why are you bringing JY into this? bro, I assure you nobody, absolutely nobody aside JY mains gives AF about him or consider him as competitor to Acheron, DHIL or JL. Character should be good after month of farm and with various availiable comps, and not after year of struggling, relic sets juggling, copium TC and 5* supports as mandatory requirement.
People really are just stuck in the “Jing Yuan bad” mindset huh?
I see, it seems the enigmata members are out in force right now. Good job there buddy im sure anyone would agree with you.
Raiden “Guardian Of The Lethe River” Mei… I see…
Do you know how to shows red text of Acheron strories?
I decided to get her since she is technically Raiden, she is pretty great, my experiences with her:
She is both good and bad for F2P, depend on your account status. Fermata S5 would still work even if not Ideal compare to S3+ GNSW, with 4* 2 Nihility and sustain that can stack for her ( Fire Trailblazer or Gallagher ) she is pretty close or a bit behind E0S1 Jingyuan with Sparkle E0S1 ( tho my JY is still not finished on relic sets, but same goes for Acheron ). Her teammate would also want to use recommended LCs that can help her stack or debuff enemies for more damage, but I think same thing can be say for most teams out there, just Acheron feels especially more demanding
Her S1 has a massive power gap, while it is like 10% – 15% dmg increase on number compare to GNSW S5, the real advantage is the ability to stack faster. With S1 you can also run 1 Nihility + 1 Harmony and can still get similar dmg to 2 Nihility, while getting better buffs if using RM/Sparkle. Sustainless is really strong and is viable even against SAM, but I guess not really relatable for more F2P players
Overall I think she is a solid characters for any strong accounts, but for F2P account that lack majority of her needs, it is better to aim for Jingliu.
You’re too uptight about the words you use: “pretty great”, “solid”. Dude, you can tell, she’s totally broken lmao.
And the difference in damage between the S1 and GNSW S5 isn’t 10-15% at all, it’s 25%.
Personally, I’d still recommend her for a f2p, as she will be more valuable in the future with the release of future Nihility characters, and even if the stuff isn’t very good, she still does a lot of damage.
It’s a me, an F2P player.
This is rarely mentioned, but Acheron instakill technique is a great time saver for free roam farming.
If you’re brand new new, like, fresh from the oven new, the current Acheron banner is actually still good for you. Pela is in there; she’s a solid debuffer. Gallagher is a good healer (Walmart Luocha) especially at E2, where he can cleanse. He also can add a stack for Acheron with his ult, which is a plus. And if you’re lucky enough to get Acheron early, you can try her weapon banner where GNSW is in there, the alternative for her signature LC.
At worst, if you lose 50:50, you can skip and pull for a guaranteed Jingliu, another broken character who can perform well with low investments, and can utilize Pela as well.
with the sig, would an ATK% sphere work (better) for her? talk about DMG multiplier overabundance etc
ATK% sphere is slightly better than lightning dmg, but not by much. Take wichever has better substats
DoOmPoStErS aRe In ShAmBlEs – lol, everything still holds true. She is TERRIBLE for a F2P, new or casual players.
EVERY, single, one of Acheron’s teammates (Including her) NEEDS a Gacha Lightcone. Trend, Pearls and GNSW to be exact, three puzzle pieces which if you are lacking… well. The funny part is having ONLY ONE copy does not suffice. E1 Pearls needs 170, I REPEAT 170 EHR to land consistently … don’t even get me Started on how garbage Fermata or S1 GNSW is.
Oh right, did I mention that beyond Pela, what is Acherons last teammate supposed to be? It’s either BS or SW, two limited 5 star characters. ANY OTHER CHOICE is just there to inflict debuffs. Gui, Sampo and Welt are laughable additions, whose contributions are minute at best. NONE other limited DPS has this issue, minus maybe Blade ( no one is saying he is strong)
I have no personal problem with Acheron, is just she is being pushed mindlessly as this miraculous unit, which she isn’t. Especially with Jingliu on the horizon, it’s incredibly disingenuous if not outright blatant misinformation. You should pull if you like her and that’s about it. She’s not ahead of the curve, would even argue behind if you don’t know what you are doing
thanks, it is fun to read, now..
a) she is BEST for newbs / casuals because she isnt dependent on weakness
b) all those lightcones have downside of not using other lightcone. With pela using pearls instead of SW’s free LC you are losing energy generation and need ton of EHR meaning from unit where you only need speed on substats, she becomes way more expensive to build in terms of relics. Using trend instead of some taunt LC you are losing taunt/stats. And GNSW is literally on Acheron’s LC banner with all the shower of jades falling it shouldnt be an issue for newb to at least get GNSW with few refinements.
c) Jingliu is epitome of hypercarry, without full investment and proper supports she is just hp-draining wet tissue after cycle 0. With Jingliu you either clear in 0-1 cycles or prepare for drag of transmigration downtime when all her downsides non visible in 0-1 cycling become transparent.
d) Acheron frees Bronya and Ting for other half, meaning your best f2p supports will be always available for other dps.
e) unlike others she doesnt need gacha 5* supports to perform adequately lol
she is literally miles ahead of others specifically for newbs/f2p
I was about to argue why you are blatantly wrong about Acheron but then I noticed the date of your post. Good job, you got me
Given this person’s history… I think they might’ve been genuine
Okay, maybe you are annoyed why people always mentioned Jing Yuan, Jing Yuan and Jing Yuan because the reason is you who said ‘none other limited DPS has teammate issue, that lead to you generalized that ONLY ACHERON and the forementioned BLADE whose having that issue (but when u said JY is the flexible unit and bla bla bla, I was just about laughed because so much of my friends benched him because they don’t have his lc or Sparkle and choosing Kafka or Acheron instead lmao), better see your typings before protesting.
But aside of the KING, here’s the thing. You are only talking in the perspective of whaler, because I see you talked about 0 cycles thingy in the other posts, which it’s not a reachable surface for F2P. And u said she is terrible for F2P? U can see some of F2P experiences on her and helped a lot by her presence. So what I’m gonna say is, just see from other perspective and don’t just pretending to be a genius theorycrafter who can make a statement that can lead everyone’s opinion to your misguide (especially for F2P).
First, F2P’s level is just ‘clear’, not fast clear. So, in terms of just ‘clear’, Acheron is absolutely far more than just enough for F2P. But I can’t deny the power of Jingliu in the F2P level is extremely powerful, but that’s not the thing. So, if you are the one who is concerning about ‘the 0 cycle thingy’, don’t talk too much about F2P thingy, because your insight is neither calculated nor valid.
Second, in terms of power, in the calculated chart, even E0 Acheron can compete with E4 Jingliu. That’s the reason why she called ‘broken’.
So, without the ‘F2P insight’ and calculated data in the arguement, I genuinely said you’re still remain a clown.
Sorry, u said NONE other DPS has teammate issue while JY just considered ‘strong’ only if Sparkle on his side? Funny though. Or maybe you’re just having delusional mind on you? Lmao u need to back to the reality. She is strong at the release and nobody from the havers doubt it. U just need to try it yourself or else u’ll be just remain a clown
Guys Found the crying Doomposter and he is starting to spread misinformation again
See! They are in shambles lmao
Pulled her on my forgotten second account. Oneshots in overworld makes things on lower levels much, MUCH easier. Pela and Gui work… Well, solid. Fire trailblazer gives almost zero utility, but he may be the best preservation in terms of Acheron stacks ever because of taunt. Her team works pretty good. And she did 50k on 60th level with toilet artifacts and teammates, which is almost my lvl 80 170 crit mass JY’s LL without Sparkle.
She’s broken, you can’t deny it.
Blade slander will not be tolerated
JY without Sparkle and Ruan mei isn’t even considered S tier contender lmfao oh wait isn’t that 2 limited 5 star characters already? hmmmm…that’s kinda hypocritical don’t you think?
Did I mention Jingyuan?
Anyway, have you even used the character, or are you sharing what you’ve heard from other people? JIngyuan is by far the MOST flexible character when it comes to picking his supports. LItteraly any support is a strong choice, and was used in a 0 cycle at some point in time. How universal he is, and his ability to perform in any mode (PF and MOC) is probably his biggest assent.
Tingyun is his bread and butter, not Sparkle nor Ruan Mei. There is a Jingyuan 0 cycle of the previous MOC with TIngyun, Hanya and Yukong fyi.
Ofc Mei and Sparkle are upgrades over his usual 4 star supports, but that applies to everyone. Also it’s a weird battle to pick, considering Blade cannot even function without 5 star harmonies.
1. Given the lacking of light cone storage of the account you discribe, no character can be good on the said account, not even Jing Yuan. RNASP on Pela at E4+ is asked for by not only Acheron, but also Jingliu. If that’s the reason why Acheron is bad then that’s true for Jingliu, too. A fresh account simply needs time to accumulate and the player shouldn’t be too hasty to consider how they will challenge the endgame contents such as MoC and PF.
2. Guinaifen is a versatile teammate due to her ability to stack for Acheron by basic attack, skill, and ultimate, which allows a quick “energy” gain on Acheron. Welt functions like a pseudo sustainer who allows a zero sustainer build, that’s to say, a harmony unit on Acheron’s team without Acheron’s E2. I zero-cycled yanqing with Acheron, Pela, Welt, and Sparkle in ease, even easier than when I do the same with Seele hypercarry. One shouldn’t be arrogant by calling a playstyle laughable before trying it out, or at the very least hearing from someone else who did.
3. Some descriptions about Jing Yuan from you are too generic to be considered an edge of Jing Yuan. Flexibility with any support? Zero-cycler? Universal on both MoC and PF? Ting Yun is the bread and butter? That reminds me of a scythe slinger. A dragon and a plasterhead also fits the criteria if PF is not included.
Am I actually talking with people here??? Have you used these characters in any meta releavt sense, or just stared at how pretty they are? (Which is fine, but dont come arguing meta then). Or are you like 12????
Pela E4 or her lightcone are Irrelevant for Jingliu. I got my E4 Pela this week (d1 player btw), and my Bronya 2 months ago. Terrible unlucky, yet my Jingliu still performed incredible, 0 cycling since the day I got her. E4 Pela is reduandant. You cannot afford to use her skill in any of Jingliu’s teams, else you’ll run into severe sp issues. Have you used tripple support Jingliu before??? Pearls of Sweat and E4 are significant for Acheron because else Pela CANNOT PROC ANY DEBUFFS beyond her ult.
Stop mentioning Jingyuan, he’s weaker than Acheron, I’m not the one who brought him up. I get it he’s not a pretty girl and you don’t wanna figure out how he works, just stop spreading hate.
There’s a disgusting notion of powercreep floating around the community which is simply not there. Every, and I mean it. EVERY limited DPS is a lot closer to each other than you’d think (At E0S1). They all clear enemies weak to their element in a similair cycle count, YTers are starved for clicks and tierlists for relevancy. Again if you’d actuslly use these charactsrs before, without any bias you’d reach the same conclusion genshin players did a long time ago. This is Support Star Rail. Get E1 Mei, and even Serval will hit like Acheron
So stop hyping up a girl just because her chest is big. BrIcKeD aCcOuNt If YoU dOn’T hAvE aChErOn. You wont die in real life if you admit she has flaws. She doesn’t love you (she only had eyes for me)
Bro typed an essay back. Someone’s tilted LMAO
Me and Dazzy are besties what are you on about??? We go way back <3
New players can use Pela and Shampoo for starters
then move on to other nihility units
Good night and Sleep well is a good Light cone for f2p or new players
She can help new players farm faster
Where are the doomposters at?
crying now
She’ S+Tier and is the best DPS in the game right now lol doomposter are in shamble rn
A tier they said hahaha
Another scenario of doomposters being absolutely wrong lmao. My e0s5 Fermata Acheron with e4 Pela and e1 Sampo deals over 500k dmg per ult. I don’t think any unit in the game can match that at the same level of investment.