307 responses to “镜流”

1. Jingliu, Bronya, Pela (E6) and Lynx (E4) should be a good team, right?

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   • Yes it’s a good team but only 1 main issue; jingliu isn’t really a “tank” like blade or clara so if she gets the extra taunt from lynx skill her HP can go down fast so I would mostly rely on lynx burst to heal jingliu. But other than that it’s not bad just make sure lynx is able to solos sustain and has high enough HP

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2. Jingliu would be great addition to my team. Since I have Gepard (E2), Luocha, Nat, and Lynx, I don’t think I need Fu Xuan right now. My DPS right now relies on Seele, Jingyuan, and Clara while SW, Kafka, Asta, Pela, Tingyun become my support

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3. Does JingLiu hp consume give a stack to Blade’s retaliate?

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   • Yes, it does

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   • yes

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4. what relics and mainstats do y’all recommend?

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   • Ice Damage one that is paired with Wind.
     Mainstats: Crit Dmg-Body. Spd-Boots. Ice Dmg-Sphere. atk% rope.
     Substats: CritDmg=Crit Rate(til a 1-2 ratio)>spd>other stats

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     • Is it? If you take Hunter of Glacial Forest set, shouldn’t you also take ER rope for stable rotation and using Ult more often?
       Also do not CritDmg=Crit Rate(til a 1-2 ratio). Because Jingliu gain 50% Crit Rate in Spectral Transmigration, you want (Crit Dmg-0,5)/2=Crit Rate until 50% Crit Rate and you don’t want Crit Rate above 50% (if we take 2 skill in Spectral Transmigration and 2 out)

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       • It’s 3x skill during transmigration, since you gain one stack from your ult. So you are currently only missing 5 energy per rotation and its up to you if you want to go for ER rope for that or bet on her defeating a foe / getting attacked. Personally, I will do the latter.

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     • why not ER rope?

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       • Assuming you ult right when entering her buffed state that’s:
         5 energy from ult
         90 energy from 3 enhanced skills
         40 energy from 2 unenhanced skills
         Which puts you at 135 energy, aka 1 mob kill, 1 weakness break or getting attacked once for the full rotation. Getting a ER rope is overkill because she only wants to use her ult in a very specific turn where she enters the buffed state.

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         • Actually it’s the other way around enhanced skills only give 20 energy and unehanced give 30. So that’s 60 from 3 enhanced and 60 from the 2 unenhanced. That makes it 120.

         • No the energy part got change during last beta so it’s now the contrary, enhanced gives 30 and normal gives 20.

         • yeah they changed that
           they made 30 from enhanced and 20 from unenhanced
           thats why they recommend ERR rope before since its 20/20 energy for good rotation but with 30 on enhanced makes the ERR rope an overkill

         • You are confusing with “1 weakness break”, because without Thief of Shooting Meteor it does not regenerate energy

   • I would heavily focus Crit-dmg for substats as well. She gets 50% Critrate from her Talent. together with Rutilant and the base 5% thats alrdy 63% Critrate without any gear. So get between 7% and 17% critrate from substats, get enough speed for at least 134 in total and put the rest into Critdmg. With Atk% and Atk as they come.

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   • Hey guys, I need help with relics, and teams (and characters that will be good for her to pull maybe?). I am not sure exactly what to be farming for anymore with all the complicated stuff I have been reading and researching. I am but a mere humble idiot, so I will be using on the fall of an Aeon for her lightcone, and planning on full maxing her out of course. As for the characters I have, to keep this simple for the recommendations of teams and on who to really go for that I will be getting, I have for five star and eidolons: bronya (e1), silverwolf (e0), welt (e0), kafka (e0), bailu (e0), and seele (e0).
     And as for four stars and eidolons I have (only counting supports): asta (e6), yukong (e1), tingyun (e0), pela (e6), nat (e4), and lynx (e0).
     Just let me know if mentioning what lightcones I have will help to help me with my build for jingliu. (And I am not going for her lightcone nor am I willing to pay). Also to make things a little easier as well, I have all four stars in the game for the time being. (eidolons as well, some I don’t, can mention if needed)

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     • Honestly, with your current characters, you should be rolling for Fu Xuan, since having no tank at all is just a pain in the ass for higher difficulty content.

       But if you dont care about that the glacial set is probably best on her and for teammates I would go for Bronya, Pela and Bailu.

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       • I see I see, I honestly was thinking about getting fu xuan or IBL at the beginning since I had gotten kafka early and still had 70 pulls. But since I went for her lightcone I only had 10 pulls left from it unfortunately ^^;; (at this point after grinding and playing everyday, with my pity and wishes I have enough for 89 pity now). But still not a guaranteed jingliu, which is the only reason I am not pulling for fu xuan. I do have a sort of built preservation trailblazer and march, along with nat and bailu not max but very good still. They are all quite good, but obvs a character that can provide full coverage for my whole team would be helpful (Do you think if I get lucky enough to pull gepard on standard I should be fine in tank characters?).

         But yeah I wish I could care, but I am hanging on a thread of maybe getting her or not rn :< glacial set it is o7 and should I keep going for rutilant arena then? (I farmed the glacial set maybe three times and got a crit rate body glacial set, with these stats: hp 71, atk% 11.6, def% 4.8, and crit dmg 12.3. Which I was happy about but everyone was saying that crit dmg body was the way to go. What do you think?). Also only reason I don't have much in relics is cuz I am farming other stuff, and I had recently finished my seele build (after using all power on kafka).

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       • as for teammates yeah that works for me, bronya and bailu are built-ish so I just have to build pela. I don’t mind building pela at all and will definetely do so. I am just curious, in jingliu’s case would silverwolf not be too good for her then?

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         • Silverwolf is better in general, but has mayor flaws with this team comp, at least compared to Pela.
           First, with SW in your team you will have 4 different elements, which makes it difficult to hit the desired ice element weakness. And if the enemy already has it, then SW won’t provide any meaningful benefit to other teammembers, since JL is your only dps in this comp. Better get Pela and pitch the team against enemies who are ice weak in the first place.
           Second, SW is only single target, while Pela and JL are multi target.

           This is also why SW works so well with Seele, where both flaws don’t apply. Sure, she is a good alternative and I am no number cruncher to really solidify my claims, but I am sure I am making a good point here.

           As for the body, sadly your crit body wont do much for her. With Rutilant Arena you will absolutely get over 100% crit and bad crit dmg stats in turn.

         • damn that sucks. Guess I have to keep farming and just give that piece to herta or something. I don’t have yanging and even then you don’t want a crit rate body piece for him as well right?

           But yeah that sounds about right. Thank you so so much for the insight and help. I will take it all, and definitely build my pela soon. (Probably after jingliu pre-farming, bronya, and SW being build. Altho might prioritize pela first before SW).
           Do you think in any scenario tingyun would be any good btw? Anyways, thank you so so much for the help!! I will have to farm a lot now haha, I wish everyone luck to get her!! <3

         • No Problem.
           And Tingyun is probably one of her worst supports. JL doesn’t need an attack buff as much, since she gets massive attack by herself, and also doesn’t need the energy, since getting her ult up before getting two of her stacks only results in an energy loss, as you want to always ult during her special state.

5. Sweet Aeons those Eiliodons are insanity.

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6. Does her skill in the Spectral Transmigration state also consume her hp? I’m farming the ice set but base on the answer I may switch to the new hp set (because farming for both crit rate and crit dmg is a hell of pain no matter what game we playing)

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   • She only consume the HP of her allies

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   • It played from attack % because it just doesn’t take HP away from itself. You should also consider the fact that you have an increased 50% crit chance.

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   • just farm 4 Qua set and forget about CR.
     You only need like 7% CR from subs to activate RA’s effect anyway.
     4LD does nothing to Jingliu unless she gets hit

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7. jinglu and fuxuan will work? you know Fuxuan mitiges damage 18%… so According to that, it will be less of an ATK buff?

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   • Damage mitigation doesn’t apply to self damage
     What Fu Xuan does do is remove the need for other HP scalers (she gives pretty much the full atk buff with just some other low hp units)

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   • I don’t think there’s no synergy for them. Fu xuan already needs to baby sit the team with her having a very little heal while jingliu takes 8-12% every 2 skills as she takes health in enhanced state. Jingliu is potentially dealing more damage to the whole team than the enemy, unless jingliu can kill the enemies before the team dying then we are good but on paper its very bad.

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8. does anyone know order of 1.4 banners and if its confirmed or not

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   • Its Jingliu first then Topax after!

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     • you got a source bro? i wanna believe you and i WANT you to be right but i need good info to make some crucial decisions

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       • Based on all the drip-marketing we’ve received in the past, the order the units are revealed has always been the order of the banners. For instance, Blade was revealed before Kafka, and when 1.2 dropped Blade’s banner was first. Imbibitor Lunae was revealed before Fu Xuan, and when 1.3 dropped IL’s banner was first. Jingliu was revealed before Topaz, so it’s pretty safe to assume that Jingliu’s banner will be first in 1.4.

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9. E1 is a buff right? Now we can deal 250% + 250% dmg to single enemy with enhanced skill and 300% + 300% with ultimate?

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   • not really its 250+125 on the enhanced skill and 300+150 on the ult

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     • unless if “targets” with the s that counts both sides then its 250+125+125 and 300+150+150
       anyways still a need more clearance on the description

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   • What they said up there. It rlly matters. But yes, E1 is a big dps boost. I’m not sure on how big a dps boost since it’s kind of hard to calc a character with new mechanics and shit. I could use some sort of baseline like 4k atk since JL does have high atk due to how her passive works but yes. Big ass buff.

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10. hii!! after her buff, can she deal the same damge as DHIL or seele?
    i want a new strong dps but idk if she is in the same level as DHIL, if not i will get him

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    • At E1, after the buffs, she does more damage than Seele in ST, at the cost, of not abusing Harmony buffs like Seele does.

      DHIL is on an another level though in AoE scenario compared to her, and that’s why he’s using 3 SP per turn, but, don’t get me wrong, since the lastest changes, she’s great, really great, her damage seems superior/close to Blade for now, and she’s easier to build since she gets a free 50% CR in her amped state.

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      • In terms of raw damage, for sure jingliu will be better, the situation where blade can be more damage competitive is when he gets to spam followup attack almost every turn. I have e6 blade and Im okay pairing with him with e1 jingliu just to make him a machine.

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    • Get DHIL. If you’re just thinking of getting her to have top DPS, that’s a race you’ll never catch up to so just get the latest banner unless you need to save up for guarantee

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