名詞 | 黃泉 | |
陣營 | 巡海遊俠 | |
稀有度 | ||
命途 | 虛無 | |
戰鬥屬性 | 雷 | |
華語 | 菊花花 | |
英語 | Allegra Clark | |
韓語 | 박지윤 | |
日語 | 沢城みゆき | |
晉升素材 | 308K 15 15 65 15 | |
行跡素材 | 3M 18 41 69 56 139 58 12 8 | |
劇情 | 自稱「巡海遊俠」的旅人,本名不詳。 身佩一把長刀,獨行銀河。 |
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屬性 |
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劇情 |
屬性
等級 | 攻擊力 | 防禦力 | 生命值 | 速度 | 暴擊率 | 暴擊傷害 | 嘲諷 | 能量 | 晉升素材 |
1 | 95.04 | 59.4 | 153 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
20 | 185.33 | 115.83 | 299 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 4000 5 |
20+ | 223.34 | 139.59 | 360 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
30 | 270.86 | 169.29 | 436 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 8000 10 |
30+ | 308.88 | 193.05 | 498 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
40 | 356.4 | 222.75 | 574 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 16000 6 3 |
40+ | 394.42 | 246.51 | 635 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
50 | 441.94 | 276.21 | 712 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 40000 9 7 |
50+ | 479.95 | 299.97 | 773 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
60 | 527.47 | 329.67 | 850 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 80000 6 20 |
60+ | 565.49 | 353.43 | 911 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
70 | 613.01 | 383.13 | 988 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | 160K 9 35 |
70+ | 651.02 | 406.89 | 1049 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 | |
80 | 698.54 | 436.59 | 1125 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 9 |
戰技
三途枯榷 - 普通攻擊 | 單體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 30 | |
對指定敵方單體造成等同於黃泉 對敵方單體造成少量雷屬性傷害。 | |
等級 | |
八雷飛渡 - 戰技 | 擴散 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 60 / 擴散 : 30 | |
獲得 獲得 | |
等級 | |
殘夢盡染,一刀繚斷 - 終結技 | 群體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 0 | |
依次發動3次【啼澤雨斬】和1次【黃泉返渡】,對指定敵方單體最多造成等同於黃泉 【啼澤雨斬】:對指定敵方單體造成等同於黃泉攻擊力 【黃泉返渡】:對敵方全體造成等同於黃泉 終結技期間無法向敵方附加【集真赤】。 對敵方單體造成3段少量雷屬性傷害,若消去目標【集真赤】則對敵方全體造成少量雷屬性傷害。最後對敵方全體造成1段雷屬性傷害並移除所有【集真赤】。 | |
等級 | |
紅葉時雨,萬傾一空 - 天賦 | 強化 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 0 | |
【殘夢】達到 任意單位施放技能期間使敵方目標陷入負面效果時,黃泉獲得1點【殘夢】並向目標附加1層【集真赤】,若使多個目標陷入負面效果,則向其中【集真赤】最多的敵方目標附加1層【集真赤】。該效果每次施放技能時最多觸發1次。 黃泉在場時,敵方目標離場或被任意單位消滅後,其持有的【集真赤】會轉移至全場【集真赤】最多的敵方目標。 【殘夢】達到上限時可啟動終結技。終結技期間可無視弱點屬性削減敵方韌性,並使敵方全體全屬性抗性降低。 任意單位施放技能期間使敵方目標陷入負面效果時,黃泉獲得【殘夢】並向敵方目標附加【集真赤】。 | |
等級 | |
攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 30 | |
攻擊敵人,進入戰鬥後削弱敵方目標對應屬性韌性。 | |
四相斷我 - 秘技 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 60 | |
立即攻擊敵人,每一波開始時獲得【四相斷我】,對敵方全體造成等同於黃泉 【四相斷我】:施放終結技後,黃泉獲得 若攻擊普通敵人則立即將其消滅,不會進入戰鬥。未命中敵人時不消耗秘技點。 攻擊敵人,每個波次開始時獲得【四相斷我】,對敵方全體造成雷屬性傷害,並無視弱點屬性削減韌性。 若攻擊普通敵人則立即將其消滅,不會進入戰鬥。未命中敵人時不消耗秘技點。 | |
啼澤雨斬 - 終結技 | 群體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 15 / 群體攻擊 : 15 | |
n/a 對敵方單體造成少量雷屬性傷害,並消去目標最多3層【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】時,對敵方全體造成1次少量雷屬性傷害,每消去1層【集真赤】本次傷害倍率便相應提高。 | |
等級 | |
啼澤雨斬 - 終結技 | 群體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 15 / 群體攻擊 : 15 | |
n/a 對敵方單體造成少量雷屬性傷害,並消去目標最多3層【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】時,對敵方全體造成1次少量雷屬性傷害,每消去1層【集真赤】本次傷害倍率便相應提高。 | |
等級 | |
啼澤雨斬 - 終結技 | 群體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 單體攻擊 : 15 / 群體攻擊 : 15 | |
n/a 對敵方單體造成少量雷屬性傷害,並消去目標最多3層【集真赤】。消去【集真赤】時,對敵方全體造成1次少量雷屬性傷害,每消去1層【集真赤】本次傷害倍率便相應提高。 | |
等級 | |
黃泉返渡 - 終結技 | 群體攻擊 | |
能量回復 : 0 | |
弱點擊破 : 群體攻擊 : 15 | |
n/a 對敵方全體造成雷屬性傷害並移除所有【集真赤】。 | |
等級 | |
行跡
赤鬼 | |
需要角色晉階 2 | |
戰鬥開始時,立即獲得 | 5000 3 1 |
暴擊傷害強化 (暴擊傷害) | |
需要角色晉階 2 | |
暴擊傷害提高 | 5000 3 6 |
攻擊強化 (攻擊力) | |
需要角色晉階 3 | |
攻擊力提高 | 10000 3 3 |
傷害強化•雷 (雷屬性傷害提高) | |
需要角色晉階 3 | |
雷屬性傷害提高 | 10000 3 3 |
奈落 | |
需要角色晉階 4 | |
我方隊伍中包含1名/2名除黃泉之外的「虛無」命途角色時,使黃泉普通攻擊、戰技、終結技造成的傷害成為原傷害的 | 20000 5 1 1 |
攻擊強化 (攻擊力) | |
需要角色晉階 4 | |
攻擊力提高 | 20000 5 4 |
暴擊傷害強化 (暴擊傷害) | |
需要角色晉階 5 | |
暴擊傷害提高 | 45000 3 3 |
攻擊強化 (攻擊力) | |
需要角色晉階 5 | |
攻擊力提高 | 45000 3 3 |
雷心 | |
需要角色晉階 6 | |
終結技的【啼澤雨斬】命中持有【集真赤】的敵方目標時,使黃泉造成的傷害提高 | 160K 8 1 1 |
傷害強化•雷 (雷屬性傷害提高) | |
需要角色晉階 6 | |
雷屬性傷害提高 | 160K 8 8 |
暴擊傷害強化 (暴擊傷害) | |
需要角色等級 75 | |
暴擊傷害提高 | 160K 8 8 |
攻擊強化 (攻擊力) | |
攻擊力提高 | 2500 2 |
攻擊強化 (攻擊力) | |
需要角色等級 80 | |
攻擊力提高 | 160K 8 8 |
星魂
高天寥落真言始 | ||
對處於負面效果的敵方目標造成傷害時暴擊率提高 |
霆鼓俱寂,瑟風亦止 | ||
行跡【奈落】最高數值所需的「虛無」命途角色人數減少1名,自身回合開始時獲得1點【殘夢】,同時向【集真赤】最多的敵方附加1層【集真赤】。 |
寒肅驚永蟄 | ||
終結技等級+2,最多不超過 |
亙焰燎照鏡中人 | ||
在敵方目標進入戰鬥時,使其陷入終結技傷害易傷狀態,受到的終結技傷害提高 |
崇岩支離,千身飄零 | ||
戰技等級+2,最多不超過 |
災咎解桎梏 | ||
黃泉造成的終結技傷害全屬性抗性穿透提高 |
光錐
名詞 | 稀有度 | 命途 | 攻擊力 | 防禦力 | 生命值 | 戰技 | 晉升素材 | |
幽邃 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 戰鬥開始時,使裝備者的效果命中提高 | ||
淵環 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 使裝備者對減速狀態下的敵方目標造成的傷害提高 | ||
匿影 | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | 施放戰技後,使裝備者的下一次普通攻擊對敵方目標造成等同於自身 | ||
晚安與睡顏 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 敵方目標每承受1個負面效果,裝備者對其造成的傷害便提高 | ||
獵物的視線 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使裝備者的效果命中提高 | ||
決心如汗珠般閃耀 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 當裝備者擊中敵方目標時,如果該目標未處於【攻陷】狀態,則有 | ||
延長記號 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使裝備者的擊破特攻提高 | ||
後會有期 | 4 | nihility-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | 裝備者發動普通攻擊或施放戰技後,對隨機1個受到攻擊的敵方目標造成等同於自身 | ||
新手任務開始前 | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | 使裝備者的效果命中提高 | ||
以世界之名 | 5 | nihility-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | 使裝備者對陷入負面效果的敵方目標造成的傷害提高 |
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初次見面 | |
問候 | |
道別 | |
關於自己•行動 | |
關於自己•習慣 | |
關於自己•身分 | * 完成開拓任務「行過死蔭之地」後解鎖 |
閒談•雨 | |
閒談•刀 | |
愛好•桃 | |
煩惱 | |
煩惱 | |
分享·武器 | |
見聞·黑洞 | |
見聞·命途 | |
見聞·命途 | |
關於開拓者 | |
關於流螢 | |
關於黑天鵝 | |
關於砂金 | |
關於瓦爾特 | |
關於薩姆 | |
星魂啟動 | |
角色晉階 | |
角色滿級 | |
行跡啟動 | |
隊伍編成•開拓者 | |
隊伍編成•黑天鵝 | |
隊伍編成•砂金 | |
隊伍編成•瓦爾特 | |
戰鬥開始•弱點擊破 | |
戰鬥開始•危險預警 | |
回合開始•一 | |
回合開始•二 | |
回合待機 | |
普通攻擊 | |
戰技•一 | |
戰技•二 | |
輕受擊 | |
重受擊 | |
終結技•啟動 | |
終結技•施放 | |
無法戰鬥 | |
重回戰鬥 | |
回復生命 | |
秘技 | |
戰鬥勝利 | |
開啟戰利品•一 | |
開啟戰利品•二 | |
開啟貴重戰利品 | |
解謎成功•一 | |
解謎成功•二 | |
發現敵方目標 | |
返回城鎮 |
劇情
Title | 遊戲語言 |
角色詳情 | 自稱「巡海遊俠」的旅人,本名不詳。身佩一把長刀,獨行銀河。 淡漠寡言,劍出如紫電般迅猛,卻從來只以刀鞘戰鬥,收而不發。 |
角色故事·一 | 「……並非人選擇刀,而是刀選中了人。▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇……那一日,看著『刀』經由我手鍛成,再被交予少女手中,我意識到,在對抗▇▇▇▇的道路上,她選擇了——或是被選中——踏上那條▇▇邁向明日的道路。▇▇▇▇▇這是一個美好的時代,即便出雲國依舊面臨威脅,人們也依舊懷抱希望,相信▇▇會被盡數斬落,天下將重獲自由……▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇……」 * 角色等級 |
角色故事·二 | 「……從鍛刀者留下的殘卷可知,出雲曾一度來到破滅邊緣。為求存續,他們以▇▇▇▇鍛刀,持刀者被奉為救國的英雄。 遺憾的是,這個世界已經從星圖上消失了,歷史的真相無處可尋,『記憶』也不復存在。武裝考古學派抵達時,星系中只流淌著「神秘」的歌謠:無邊的雨自▇▇中如淚湧出,微茫的雨幕下,出雲國的孑遺背對被▇▇▇▇▇▇抹去的故鄉……」 * 角色等級 |
角色故事·三 | 「我用了『醒覺 那雨彷彿永遠不會停下,在高漲的潮水中,人們在溺亡中微笑。而在沉淪的黑夜,我總能聽見遙遠的雷聲在迫近,直到某一刻,雷光乍現,將黑夜撕裂。在破碎的天空下,我又看見了她——在褪色成無的世界裡,她輕輕揮出一刀,將整片夢境帶走。 我必須承認,在這條路上她走得遠比我們更深。那無可捉摸的████引領她走向██,她卻在無形中將其執握於手。也許在旅途之初,她就已準備好面對真正的敵人……」 * 角色等級 |
角色故事·四 | 「我把這封信留在這裡。如果我沒能回來,就由它來講述她的故事,一位我在████邂逅的同伴。邁向彼岸的路艱難無比,幸虧有她同行,我才能一路平安無事…… ……在我們相遇前,她已去過許多世界,各種生活技能都十分熟練。我和她一起在野外烹飪和搭帳篷,那些沒有星星的夜晚,她會聽我講故事,和我討論明天要做什麼。更多時候,我們只是默默行路。這裡的雪是紫紅色的,嚐起來有樹莓的酸甜。她████會讚賞我做的████雪糰子…… ……在認識她以前,我曾長年在██河流中跋涉。她向我伸出了手,我們便一起在這條河流中同行。如今,分別的時候到了,我還沒走到岸邊,也不知道即將面對的是什麼……但我沒有理由停下腳步。生命無非是一條終有盡頭的道路,在此之前,我會用自己的雙腳走到終點。我相信她也一樣。」 * 角色等級 |
角色故事•一 | 「……並非人選擇刀,而是刀選中了人。正如人無法選擇命運,而是命運選擇人……那一日,看著『刀』經由我手鍛成,再被交予少女手中,我意識到,在對抗『八百萬神』的道路上,她選擇了——或是被選中——踏上那條看似邁向明日的道路。我多麼希望這是一個美好的時代,即便出雲國依舊面臨威脅,人們也依舊懷抱希望,相信惡神會被盡數斬落,天下將重獲自由……可是直到刀光消隕,我才明白,這是一條沒有終點的死路,而踏上它的人們,再無回頭的可能……」 |
角色故事•二 | 「……從鍛刀者留下的殘卷可知,出雲曾一度來到破滅邊緣。為求存續,他們以『神骸』鍛刀,持刀者被奉為救國的英雄。學會對其中的『八百萬神』很感興趣,目前尚不清楚它們與哪條命途有關,而在日後的記述中,出雲人對那些刀主的稱呼也漸漸從『人』變成了『鬼』。 遺憾的是,這個世界已經從星圖上消失了,歷史的真相無處可尋,『記憶』也不復存在。武裝考古學派抵達時,星系中只流淌著「神秘」的歌謠:無邊的雨自黑日中如淚湧出,微茫的雨幕下,出雲國的孑遺背對被她拯救又親手抹去的故鄉……她的前方,只有目不可視的陰影。」 |
角色故事•三 | 「我用了『醒覺 那雨彷彿永遠不會停下,在高漲的潮水中,人們在溺亡中微笑。而在沉淪的黑夜,我總能聽見遙遠的雷聲在迫近,直到某一刻,雷光乍現,將黑夜撕裂。在破碎的天空下,我又看見了她——在褪色成無的世界裡,她輕輕揮出一刀,將整片夢境帶走。 我必須承認,在這條路上她走得遠比我們更深。那無可捉摸的『虛無』引領她走向自滅,她卻在無形中將其執握於手。也許在旅途之初,她就已準備好面對真正的敵人……我曾向她提問,這一切有何意義?但她並未作答。是她不知曉如何回應,還是她心中早已有了答案?」 |
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1,358 responses to “黃泉”
Crazy how the there are still doompost here 😮
It’s okay, no one will judge you here. You can be critical of your bewedded maiden, she’ll still love you I promise. (she loves me more)
Weren’t you hating on her before? 💀
just in shambles
Yeah. All the simps calling her “bRoKeN” ore release are in shambles. She performs alright compared to a JY, jingliu, or dhik. Who would dare criticize their queen to which they fantasize day to day.
this is the same issue with youtubeurs, calling everyone broken at release. No critical thinking, just being sheep’s and parroting one another, and the people in here regurgitating what X YouTube said. It’s pathetic.
that’s the thing, she is broken and is competitive for number one (and most deffo better than JY).
whatever helps you cope lmao
Wdym alright lol she ways above JY in her performance and is the best DPS in the game by far
Finally someone gets it
She’s a good unit, but the way everyone is ridding her crimson knot is disgusting. The push for Acheron like she breaks the charts is ridiculous. No you shouldn’t pull for her any more than any DPS unit, and I just wish there was more opposition, more voices telling players to maybe think twice.
The anecdotes are especially killing me. The I did 500k so she can’t be bad… like all her damage isn’t funneled into her ult, or that she doesn’t overkill enemies to inflate her perceived numbers. Most DPS units have their damage spread out, Jingliu doing 200k per skill and 250 per ult is in no way inferior for example…
Not to mention Jingliu is sooooooooo easy to build. Girl got free 50% crit rate, 30% crit damage, and 9 speed build in her. You don’t need really her LC too, just get the Herta’s LC and you’ll be fine.
My biggest issue with Acheron is her strict requirements to get anywhere near her full potential
Yes full potential Acheron is absolutely insane… but…
Her best 4* LC is barely 80% of her sig, her best F2P isn’t even 70%
Then she slows down if you don’t have Resolution Shines on Pela and her ST dmg isn’t particularly stunning without SW
I think Acheron is great but the amount of hoops new players need to go through to use a fraction of her potential is insane
Compare that to Dan Heng and Jingliu who both have a free LC that’s over 90% of their sig, easy Relic sets and the ability to use VERY easily obtainable supports
For newer players Acheron is not the way unless you’re willing to dedicate everything to her
For more experienced players do what you want
Fair take, I have similar opinions too, altho she’s still good for new players with her technical skill, but personally I think it is also a bad aspect as that take away the fun when you first starting out
why are you bringing JY into this? bro, I assure you nobody, absolutely nobody aside JY mains gives AF about him or consider him as competitor to Acheron, DHIL or JL. Character should be good after month of farm and with various availiable comps, and not after year of struggling, relic sets juggling, copium TC and 5* supports as mandatory requirement.
People really are just stuck in the “Jing Yuan bad” mindset huh?
I see, it seems the enigmata members are out in force right now. Good job there buddy im sure anyone would agree with you.
Raiden “Guardian Of The Lethe River” Mei… I see…
Do you know how to shows red text of Acheron strories?
I decided to get her since she is technically Raiden, she is pretty great, my experiences with her:
She is both good and bad for F2P, depend on your account status. Fermata S5 would still work even if not Ideal compare to S3+ GNSW, with 4* 2 Nihility and sustain that can stack for her ( Fire Trailblazer or Gallagher ) she is pretty close or a bit behind E0S1 Jingyuan with Sparkle E0S1 ( tho my JY is still not finished on relic sets, but same goes for Acheron ). Her teammate would also want to use recommended LCs that can help her stack or debuff enemies for more damage, but I think same thing can be say for most teams out there, just Acheron feels especially more demanding
Her S1 has a massive power gap, while it is like 10% – 15% dmg increase on number compare to GNSW S5, the real advantage is the ability to stack faster. With S1 you can also run 1 Nihility + 1 Harmony and can still get similar dmg to 2 Nihility, while getting better buffs if using RM/Sparkle. Sustainless is really strong and is viable even against SAM, but I guess not really relatable for more F2P players
Overall I think she is a solid characters for any strong accounts, but for F2P account that lack majority of her needs, it is better to aim for Jingliu.
You’re too uptight about the words you use: “pretty great”, “solid”. Dude, you can tell, she’s totally broken lmao.
And the difference in damage between the S1 and GNSW S5 isn’t 10-15% at all, it’s 25%.
Personally, I’d still recommend her for a f2p, as she will be more valuable in the future with the release of future Nihility characters, and even if the stuff isn’t very good, she still does a lot of damage.
It’s a me, an F2P player.
This is rarely mentioned, but Acheron instakill technique is a great time saver for free roam farming.
If you’re brand new new, like, fresh from the oven new, the current Acheron banner is actually still good for you. Pela is in there; she’s a solid debuffer. Gallagher is a good healer (Walmart Luocha) especially at E2, where he can cleanse. He also can add a stack for Acheron with his ult, which is a plus. And if you’re lucky enough to get Acheron early, you can try her weapon banner where GNSW is in there, the alternative for her signature LC.
At worst, if you lose 50:50, you can skip and pull for a guaranteed Jingliu, another broken character who can perform well with low investments, and can utilize Pela as well.
with the sig, would an ATK% sphere work (better) for her? talk about DMG multiplier overabundance etc
ATK% sphere is slightly better than lightning dmg, but not by much. Take wichever has better substats
DoOmPoStErS aRe In ShAmBlEs – lol, everything still holds true. She is TERRIBLE for a F2P, new or casual players.
EVERY, single, one of Acheron’s teammates (Including her) NEEDS a Gacha Lightcone. Trend, Pearls and GNSW to be exact, three puzzle pieces which if you are lacking… well. The funny part is having ONLY ONE copy does not suffice. E1 Pearls needs 170, I REPEAT 170 EHR to land consistently … don’t even get me Started on how garbage Fermata or S1 GNSW is.
Oh right, did I mention that beyond Pela, what is Acherons last teammate supposed to be? It’s either BS or SW, two limited 5 star characters. ANY OTHER CHOICE is just there to inflict debuffs. Gui, Sampo and Welt are laughable additions, whose contributions are minute at best. NONE other limited DPS has this issue, minus maybe Blade ( no one is saying he is strong)
I have no personal problem with Acheron, is just she is being pushed mindlessly as this miraculous unit, which she isn’t. Especially with Jingliu on the horizon, it’s incredibly disingenuous if not outright blatant misinformation. You should pull if you like her and that’s about it. She’s not ahead of the curve, would even argue behind if you don’t know what you are doing
thanks, it is fun to read, now..
a) she is BEST for newbs / casuals because she isnt dependent on weakness
b) all those lightcones have downside of not using other lightcone. With pela using pearls instead of SW’s free LC you are losing energy generation and need ton of EHR meaning from unit where you only need speed on substats, she becomes way more expensive to build in terms of relics. Using trend instead of some taunt LC you are losing taunt/stats. And GNSW is literally on Acheron’s LC banner with all the shower of jades falling it shouldnt be an issue for newb to at least get GNSW with few refinements.
c) Jingliu is epitome of hypercarry, without full investment and proper supports she is just hp-draining wet tissue after cycle 0. With Jingliu you either clear in 0-1 cycles or prepare for drag of transmigration downtime when all her downsides non visible in 0-1 cycling become transparent.
d) Acheron frees Bronya and Ting for other half, meaning your best f2p supports will be always available for other dps.
e) unlike others she doesnt need gacha 5* supports to perform adequately lol
she is literally miles ahead of others specifically for newbs/f2p
I was about to argue why you are blatantly wrong about Acheron but then I noticed the date of your post. Good job, you got me
Given this person’s history… I think they might’ve been genuine
Okay, maybe you are annoyed why people always mentioned Jing Yuan, Jing Yuan and Jing Yuan because the reason is you who said ‘none other limited DPS has teammate issue, that lead to you generalized that ONLY ACHERON and the forementioned BLADE whose having that issue (but when u said JY is the flexible unit and bla bla bla, I was just about laughed because so much of my friends benched him because they don’t have his lc or Sparkle and choosing Kafka or Acheron instead lmao), better see your typings before protesting.
But aside of the KING, here’s the thing. You are only talking in the perspective of whaler, because I see you talked about 0 cycles thingy in the other posts, which it’s not a reachable surface for F2P. And u said she is terrible for F2P? U can see some of F2P experiences on her and helped a lot by her presence. So what I’m gonna say is, just see from other perspective and don’t just pretending to be a genius theorycrafter who can make a statement that can lead everyone’s opinion to your misguide (especially for F2P).
First, F2P’s level is just ‘clear’, not fast clear. So, in terms of just ‘clear’, Acheron is absolutely far more than just enough for F2P. But I can’t deny the power of Jingliu in the F2P level is extremely powerful, but that’s not the thing. So, if you are the one who is concerning about ‘the 0 cycle thingy’, don’t talk too much about F2P thingy, because your insight is neither calculated nor valid.
Second, in terms of power, in the calculated chart, even E0 Acheron can compete with E4 Jingliu. That’s the reason why she called ‘broken’.
So, without the ‘F2P insight’ and calculated data in the arguement, I genuinely said you’re still remain a clown.
Sorry, u said NONE other DPS has teammate issue while JY just considered ‘strong’ only if Sparkle on his side? Funny though. Or maybe you’re just having delusional mind on you? Lmao u need to back to the reality. She is strong at the release and nobody from the havers doubt it. U just need to try it yourself or else u’ll be just remain a clown
Guys Found the crying Doomposter and he is starting to spread misinformation again
See! They are in shambles lmao
Pulled her on my forgotten second account. Oneshots in overworld makes things on lower levels much, MUCH easier. Pela and Gui work… Well, solid. Fire trailblazer gives almost zero utility, but he may be the best preservation in terms of Acheron stacks ever because of taunt. Her team works pretty good. And she did 50k on 60th level with toilet artifacts and teammates, which is almost my lvl 80 170 crit mass JY’s LL without Sparkle.
She’s broken, you can’t deny it.
Blade slander will not be tolerated
JY without Sparkle and Ruan mei isn’t even considered S tier contender lmfao oh wait isn’t that 2 limited 5 star characters already? hmmmm…that’s kinda hypocritical don’t you think?
Did I mention Jingyuan?
Anyway, have you even used the character, or are you sharing what you’ve heard from other people? JIngyuan is by far the MOST flexible character when it comes to picking his supports. LItteraly any support is a strong choice, and was used in a 0 cycle at some point in time. How universal he is, and his ability to perform in any mode (PF and MOC) is probably his biggest assent.
Tingyun is his bread and butter, not Sparkle nor Ruan Mei. There is a Jingyuan 0 cycle of the previous MOC with TIngyun, Hanya and Yukong fyi.
Ofc Mei and Sparkle are upgrades over his usual 4 star supports, but that applies to everyone. Also it’s a weird battle to pick, considering Blade cannot even function without 5 star harmonies.
1. Given the lacking of light cone storage of the account you discribe, no character can be good on the said account, not even Jing Yuan. RNASP on Pela at E4+ is asked for by not only Acheron, but also Jingliu. If that’s the reason why Acheron is bad then that’s true for Jingliu, too. A fresh account simply needs time to accumulate and the player shouldn’t be too hasty to consider how they will challenge the endgame contents such as MoC and PF.
2. Guinaifen is a versatile teammate due to her ability to stack for Acheron by basic attack, skill, and ultimate, which allows a quick “energy” gain on Acheron. Welt functions like a pseudo sustainer who allows a zero sustainer build, that’s to say, a harmony unit on Acheron’s team without Acheron’s E2. I zero-cycled yanqing with Acheron, Pela, Welt, and Sparkle in ease, even easier than when I do the same with Seele hypercarry. One shouldn’t be arrogant by calling a playstyle laughable before trying it out, or at the very least hearing from someone else who did.
3. Some descriptions about Jing Yuan from you are too generic to be considered an edge of Jing Yuan. Flexibility with any support? Zero-cycler? Universal on both MoC and PF? Ting Yun is the bread and butter? That reminds me of a scythe slinger. A dragon and a plasterhead also fits the criteria if PF is not included.
Am I actually talking with people here??? Have you used these characters in any meta releavt sense, or just stared at how pretty they are? (Which is fine, but dont come arguing meta then). Or are you like 12????
Pela E4 or her lightcone are Irrelevant for Jingliu. I got my E4 Pela this week (d1 player btw), and my Bronya 2 months ago. Terrible unlucky, yet my Jingliu still performed incredible, 0 cycling since the day I got her. E4 Pela is reduandant. You cannot afford to use her skill in any of Jingliu’s teams, else you’ll run into severe sp issues. Have you used tripple support Jingliu before??? Pearls of Sweat and E4 are significant for Acheron because else Pela CANNOT PROC ANY DEBUFFS beyond her ult.
Stop mentioning Jingyuan, he’s weaker than Acheron, I’m not the one who brought him up. I get it he’s not a pretty girl and you don’t wanna figure out how he works, just stop spreading hate.
There’s a disgusting notion of powercreep floating around the community which is simply not there. Every, and I mean it. EVERY limited DPS is a lot closer to each other than you’d think (At E0S1). They all clear enemies weak to their element in a similair cycle count, YTers are starved for clicks and tierlists for relevancy. Again if you’d actuslly use these charactsrs before, without any bias you’d reach the same conclusion genshin players did a long time ago. This is Support Star Rail. Get E1 Mei, and even Serval will hit like Acheron
So stop hyping up a girl just because her chest is big. BrIcKeD aCcOuNt If YoU dOn’T hAvE aChErOn. You wont die in real life if you admit she has flaws. She doesn’t love you (she only had eyes for me)
Bro typed an essay back. Someone’s tilted LMAO
Me and Dazzy are besties what are you on about??? We go way back <3
New players can use Pela and Shampoo for starters
then move on to other nihility units
Good night and Sleep well is a good Light cone for f2p or new players
She can help new players farm faster
Where are the doomposters at?
crying now
She’ S+Tier and is the best DPS in the game right now lol doomposter are in shamble rn
A tier they said hahaha
Another scenario of doomposters being absolutely wrong lmao. My e0s5 Fermata Acheron with e4 Pela and e1 Sampo deals over 500k dmg per ult. I don’t think any unit in the game can match that at the same level of investment.